Comments on: Good reference for the non-apology apology http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-05-24_714 Because we care about stuff Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:49:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: On apologizing and holding grudges « Editorializing the Editors http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-05-24_714/comment-page-1#comment-170970 On apologizing and holding grudges « Editorializing the Editors Tue, 27 May 2008 02:45:30 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/?p=714#comment-170970 [...] 27, 2008 by L Tekanji has linked a discussion of the linguistic uses of the word “sorry” at Language Log. Basically, [...] [...] 27, 2008 by L Tekanji has linked a discussion of the linguistic uses of the word “sorry” at Language Log. Basically, [...]

]]> By: tekanji http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-05-24_714/comment-page-1#comment-170968 tekanji Tue, 27 May 2008 00:15:14 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/?p=714#comment-170968 <b>hablaadora said:</b> <blockquote>I think we could really make a concise ‘valid apology test’ based on their analysis.</blockquote> I think you're right. I wonder if it would be worth making said test... hablaadora said:

I think we could really make a concise ‘valid apology test’ based on their analysis.

I think you’re right. I wonder if it would be worth making said test…

]]> By: habladora http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-05-24_714/comment-page-1#comment-170966 habladora Mon, 26 May 2008 19:48:16 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/?p=714#comment-170966 I loved these <i>Language Log</i> articles as well. I think we could really make a concise 'valid apology test' based on their analysis. There is another conversation about political apologies during the first 10 minutes of a recent <i>This American Life</i>, <a href="http://thislife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1239" rel="nofollow">Mistakes Were Made</a>. I have to say, though, that I don't think that the example that Ira Glass points to as a 'real apology' measures up. Grammatically, maybe it does... but I think that in order to pass my validity test, I'd want the guilty party to acknowledge how their actions were hurtful and why they are wrong. I loved these Language Log articles as well. I think we could really make a concise ‘valid apology test’ based on their analysis. There is another conversation about political apologies during the first 10 minutes of a recent This American Life, Mistakes Were Made. I have to say, though, that I don’t think that the example that Ira Glass points to as a ‘real apology’ measures up. Grammatically, maybe it does… but I think that in order to pass my validity test, I’d want the guilty party to acknowledge how their actions were hurtful and why they are wrong.

]]> By: links for 2008-05-26 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-05-24_714/comment-page-1#comment-170965 links for 2008-05-26 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture Mon, 26 May 2008 10:32:23 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/?p=714#comment-170965 [...] Official Shrub.com Blog » Blog Archive » Good reference for the non-apology apology “Given how often non-privileged groups are subject to non-apology “apologies” … both Pullman’s and Liberman’s posts strike me as a useful resource for pointing out exactly why those so-called apologies fall so far short of the mark.” (tags: racism sexism privilege) [...] [...] Official Shrub.com Blog » Blog Archive » Good reference for the non-apology apology “Given how often non-privileged groups are subject to non-apology “apologies” … both Pullman’s and Liberman’s posts strike me as a useful resource for pointing out exactly why those so-called apologies fall so far short of the mark.” (tags: racism sexism privilege) [...]

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