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		<title>By: On Facing Your Bias, Owning Your Prejudice, and Allies - Part 1 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170887</link>
		<dc:creator>On Facing Your Bias, Owning Your Prejudice, and Allies - Part 1 at Racialicious - the intersection of race and pop culture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] she is currently working hard in video game design school. She dedicated a post to the idea of feminist infighting, specifically noting: Privilege means not having to look past your own oppression to see the ways [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] she is currently working hard in video game design school. She dedicated a post to the idea of feminist infighting, specifically noting: Privilege means not having to look past your own oppression to see the ways [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170886</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;belledame222 said:&lt;/b&gt; 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Y’know…while I agree with much of this, I’m just thinking that the idea that some sort of uplift is the “white ___’s burden” is maybe part of the problem here; coz, you know where -that’s- from, right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, ouch, I didn't even think about that. I was thinking that white people need shoulder responsibility for our privilege, rather than shuffling the responsibility onto the non-privileged group. But now that you point it out, I see how that was a bad choice of words on my part ._.

&lt;b&gt;Katie:&lt;/b&gt; Omigosh, do you really think I'm cute? Which side is my better one? I want to make sure that I'm presenting my best when I show up on the dustcover of my new Seal Press book: "Diversity the White Way" (see, it's a hilarious play on words, I'm so witty, tee hee!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>belledame222 said:</b> </p>
<blockquote><p>Y’know…while I agree with much of this, I’m just thinking that the idea that some sort of uplift is the “white ___’s burden” is maybe part of the problem here; coz, you know where -that’s- from, right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, ouch, I didn&#8217;t even think about that. I was thinking that white people need shoulder responsibility for our privilege, rather than shuffling the responsibility onto the non-privileged group. But now that you point it out, I see how that was a bad choice of words on my part ._.</p>
<p><b>Katie:</b> Omigosh, do you really think I&#8217;m cute? Which side is my better one? I want to make sure that I&#8217;m presenting my best when I show up on the dustcover of my new Seal Press book: &#8220;Diversity the White Way&#8221; (see, it&#8217;s a hilarious play on words, I&#8217;m so witty, tee hee!)</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170884</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seal Press would publish you, Tekanji.  Your words would, like, totally remind them of their diversity trainer!

(And object though you might that you'd rather give the offer to someone else--someone who suffers the pain you merely translate--they'd want you, cute, smart, sassy Tekanji!  (TOTALLY critical traits.))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seal Press would publish you, Tekanji.  Your words would, like, totally remind them of their diversity trainer!</p>
<p>(And object though you might that you&#8217;d rather give the offer to someone else&#8211;someone who suffers the pain you merely translate&#8211;they&#8217;d want you, cute, smart, sassy Tekanji!  (TOTALLY critical traits.))</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170882</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That said: I agree very much with the second paragraph, ("In this case it means...") with the gist of this, obviously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That said: I agree very much with the second paragraph, (&#8221;In this case it means&#8230;&#8221;) with the gist of this, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170881</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y'know...while I agree with much of this, I'm just thinking that the idea that some sort of uplift is the "white ___'s burden" is maybe part of the problem here; coz, you know where -that's- from, right?

 I understand what you're saying here, and I'm honestly not trying to be pedantic or something, just...well for one thing, i dunno, is it a "burden?"  to listen to other people?  Because honestly I think I do that as much for myself as anything else.  It's a pleasure.  It makes my life richer.  It's not, like, a grim duty, you know?  

and also:  I dunno, I think listening to people because they've got something important to say, and...yeah, it's not about "privilege."  It's not about charitably lending an ear.  It's about "hey, these are the women the world requires: it'd be fucking stupid to -not- listen."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know&#8230;while I agree with much of this, I&#8217;m just thinking that the idea that some sort of uplift is the &#8220;white ___&#8217;s burden&#8221; is maybe part of the problem here; coz, you know where -that&#8217;s- from, right?</p>
<p> I understand what you&#8217;re saying here, and I&#8217;m honestly not trying to be pedantic or something, just&#8230;well for one thing, i dunno, is it a &#8220;burden?&#8221;  to listen to other people?  Because honestly I think I do that as much for myself as anything else.  It&#8217;s a pleasure.  It makes my life richer.  It&#8217;s not, like, a grim duty, you know?  </p>
<p>and also:  I dunno, I think listening to people because they&#8217;ve got something important to say, and&#8230;yeah, it&#8217;s not about &#8220;privilege.&#8221;  It&#8217;s not about charitably lending an ear.  It&#8217;s about &#8220;hey, these are the women the world requires: it&#8217;d be fucking stupid to -not- listen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Official Shrub.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Earning the privilege to be trusted</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170871</link>
		<dc:creator>Official Shrub.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Earning the privilege to be trusted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up on some thoughts that relate to what I said in Feminist Infighting, I wanted to talk about something that karnythia said in her post, Seal Press, Amanda [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] up on some thoughts that relate to what I said in Feminist Infighting, I wanted to talk about something that karnythia said in her post, Seal Press, Amanda [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170869</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Beste:&lt;/b&gt; Which comment? Did an already published comment disappear, or did one appear not to make it through moderation? &lt;i&gt;[Edit: Nevermind, I found it. It was in the spam filter, although why I didn't see it when I checked before, I'm not sure.]&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Beste:</b> Which comment? Did an already published comment disappear, or did one appear not to make it through moderation? <i>[Edit: Nevermind, I found it. It was in the spam filter, although why I didn&#8217;t see it when I checked before, I&#8217;m not sure.]</i></p>
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		<title>By: Beste</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170866</link>
		<dc:creator>Beste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tekanji,

What happened to my other comment??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tekanji,</p>
<p>What happened to my other comment??</p>
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		<title>By: Beste</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170865</link>
		<dc:creator>Beste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ikue,

I don't get exactly what you mean...Could you please give me examples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ikue,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get exactly what you mean&#8230;Could you please give me examples?</p>
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		<title>By: Beste</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2008-04-22_710#comment-170864</link>
		<dc:creator>Beste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's interesting

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/04/25/i-guess-its-a-jungle-in-here-too-huh/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting</p>
<p><a href="http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/04/25/i-guess-its-a-jungle-in-here-too-huh/" rel="nofollow">http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/04/25/i-guess-its-a-jungle-in-here-too-huh/</a></p>
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