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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2007-01-07_499#comment-20037</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 23:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Godless Heathen:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;I wonder who or what has been giving you the impression that you werenâ€™t supposed to like pink. Not to say that there arenâ€™t folks who give that impression, but generally Iâ€™ve heard that as a strawman position.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's not like anyone has ever said to me, "You shouldn't like pink," but rather it's a colour that in this day and age represents All Things Girly. And when I was younger, I completely bought into the male-normative mindset that "feminine = bad and masculine = good".

Not to mention that there &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a subtle reinforcement of this -- or at least that femininity and masculinity are like oil and water and don't mix -- every time someone expresses shock that I, as a non-feminine person, would like the colour pink.

&lt;blockquote&gt;it wasnâ€™t the actual color that I had an issue with (though my personal preferences run to cool greens and blues), but the infantilization  and/or gender coding that pink usually represents. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is actually exactly what I'm objecting to, except from the other side of things. My willingness to embrace the colour pink is a rejection of the infantalization aspect as well as the premise behind the gender coding. Yes, I am female, but at the same time I'm not &lt;i&gt;feminine&lt;/i&gt; and I reject the idea that one can only like pink if one is feminine.

&lt;b&gt;Sour Duck:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Are you a reader of Kameron Hurley (blog: Brutal Women)? I think sheâ€™s gone to Wiscon in the past, if I were going Iâ€™d definitely try and catch her if sheâ€™s on a panel, or chat with her in the hall.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm not a regular reader, though I do drop by occasionally. I'm sure I'll find all sorts of people I know of online there to chat with bwahaha :D :D
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Have fun! Blog about it here if you can/are willing. ;)&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

I will do my best! ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Godless Heathen:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>I wonder who or what has been giving you the impression that you werenâ€™t supposed to like pink. Not to say that there arenâ€™t folks who give that impression, but generally Iâ€™ve heard that as a strawman position.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not like anyone has ever said to me, &#8220;You shouldn&#8217;t like pink,&#8221; but rather it&#8217;s a colour that in this day and age represents All Things Girly. And when I was younger, I completely bought into the male-normative mindset that &#8220;feminine = bad and masculine = good&#8221;.</p>
<p>Not to mention that there <i>is</i> a subtle reinforcement of this &#8212; or at least that femininity and masculinity are like oil and water and don&#8217;t mix &#8212; every time someone expresses shock that I, as a non-feminine person, would like the colour pink.</p>
<blockquote><p>it wasnâ€™t the actual color that I had an issue with (though my personal preferences run to cool greens and blues), but the infantilization  and/or gender coding that pink usually represents. </p></blockquote>
<p>Which is actually exactly what I&#8217;m objecting to, except from the other side of things. My willingness to embrace the colour pink is a rejection of the infantalization aspect as well as the premise behind the gender coding. Yes, I am female, but at the same time I&#8217;m not <i>feminine</i> and I reject the idea that one can only like pink if one is feminine.</p>
<p><b>Sour Duck:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Are you a reader of Kameron Hurley (blog: Brutal Women)? I think sheâ€™s gone to Wiscon in the past, if I were going Iâ€™d definitely try and catch her if sheâ€™s on a panel, or chat with her in the hall.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not a regular reader, though I do drop by occasionally. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll find all sorts of people I know of online there to chat with bwahaha <img src='http://blog.shrub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> :D</p>
<blockquote><p>Have fun! Blog about it here if you can/are willing. <img src='http://blog.shrub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>I will do my best! ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Sour Duck</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2007-01-07_499#comment-20010</link>
		<dc:creator>Sour Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Godless Heathen re: the infantilization that goes hand in hand with the color pink, which is why I don't like it, although I do have a pale pink pullover hood that's one of my favorites.

Are you a reader of Kameron Hurley (blog: Brutal Women)? I think she's gone to Wiscon in the past, if I were going I'd definitely try and catch her if she's on a panel, or chat with her in the hall.

Have fun! Blog about it here if you can/are willing. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Godless Heathen re: the infantilization that goes hand in hand with the color pink, which is why I don&#8217;t like it, although I do have a pale pink pullover hood that&#8217;s one of my favorites.</p>
<p>Are you a reader of Kameron Hurley (blog: Brutal Women)? I think she&#8217;s gone to Wiscon in the past, if I were going I&#8217;d definitely try and catch her if she&#8217;s on a panel, or chat with her in the hall.</p>
<p>Have fun! Blog about it here if you can/are willing. <img src='http://blog.shrub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Godless Heathen</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2007-01-07_499#comment-19293</link>
		<dc:creator>Godless Heathen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I don't understand the pink thing.  I understand that you like pink, that's cool, whatever floats your boat.  I agree, not linking pink because you're "not supposed to like it" is a dumb thing, however, I wonder who or what has been giving you the impression that you weren't supposed to like pink.  Not to say that there aren't folks who give that impression, but generally I've heard that as a strawman position.  Most people don't have an issue with your personal preferences as much as they have an issue with being expected, because of their gender, to have those preferences.

Anytime I've ever had something to say about pink, it wasn't the actual color that I had an issue with (though my personal preferences run to cool greens and blues), but the &lt;a href="http://www.bcaction.org/Pages/LearnAboutUs/WelcomeToCancerland.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;infantilization &lt;/a&gt; and/or gender coding that pink usually represents.  For instance, console and accessory manufacturers decide that the reason women aren't buying their products is that there isn't a pink one, instead of problems like massive controllers making the console hard for smaller hands to use.  Or, in the case of baby showers, people incessantly stating that a girlchild cannot recieve any powder blue gifts, a boychild cannot recieve any baby pink gifts, for fear of the space-time continuum collapsing in on itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I don&#8217;t understand the pink thing.  I understand that you like pink, that&#8217;s cool, whatever floats your boat.  I agree, not linking pink because you&#8217;re &#8220;not supposed to like it&#8221; is a dumb thing, however, I wonder who or what has been giving you the impression that you weren&#8217;t supposed to like pink.  Not to say that there aren&#8217;t folks who give that impression, but generally I&#8217;ve heard that as a strawman position.  Most people don&#8217;t have an issue with your personal preferences as much as they have an issue with being expected, because of their gender, to have those preferences.</p>
<p>Anytime I&#8217;ve ever had something to say about pink, it wasn&#8217;t the actual color that I had an issue with (though my personal preferences run to cool greens and blues), but the <a href="http://www.bcaction.org/Pages/LearnAboutUs/WelcomeToCancerland.html" rel="nofollow">infantilization </a> and/or gender coding that pink usually represents.  For instance, console and accessory manufacturers decide that the reason women aren&#8217;t buying their products is that there isn&#8217;t a pink one, instead of problems like massive controllers making the console hard for smaller hands to use.  Or, in the case of baby showers, people incessantly stating that a girlchild cannot recieve any powder blue gifts, a boychild cannot recieve any baby pink gifts, for fear of the space-time continuum collapsing in on itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Revena</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2007-01-07_499#comment-18270</link>
		<dc:creator>Revena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 05:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bought my plane tickets tonight.  WOOOO WISCON!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought my plane tickets tonight.  WOOOO WISCON!</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2007-01-07_499#comment-18266</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 04:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Sara:&lt;/b&gt; I'm 24 and the only times I've not had some kind of stuffed animal in the bed with me was the same as you -- when there was another human sleeping in it.

&lt;b&gt;earlbecke:&lt;/b&gt; If you can, definitely look me up! I'd love to be able to meet you in person. ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sara:</b> I&#8217;m 24 and the only times I&#8217;ve not had some kind of stuffed animal in the bed with me was the same as you &#8212; when there was another human sleeping in it.</p>
<p><b>earlbecke:</b> If you can, definitely look me up! I&#8217;d love to be able to meet you in person. ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: earlbecke</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2007-01-07_499#comment-18265</link>
		<dc:creator>earlbecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, man, I so want to go to Wiscon...if I can afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, man, I so want to go to Wiscon&#8230;if I can afford it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2007-01-07_499#comment-18261</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe. I have a Mario plush that's only finally been relegated to a not-on-the-bed position because I have a regular (human) partner in bed with me ... and mind, I'm almost 22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe. I have a Mario plush that&#8217;s only finally been relegated to a not-on-the-bed position because I have a regular (human) partner in bed with me &#8230; and mind, I&#8217;m almost 22.</p>
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