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	<title>Comments on: Using Beauty to Establish Gamer Cred [The Gaming Beauty Myth, Part 3]</title>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-27642</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 08:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;dreamer and LD:&lt;/b&gt; I've come up with a couple of references and whatnot off the top of my head. If you find a better resource for this sort of thing, please let me know.

&lt;i&gt;Study:&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/9/998" rel="nofollow"&gt;PDF File&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Commentary:&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.reappropriate.com/?p=497" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sexual Dimorphism and Feminism&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-07-05_324/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Embracing Your Inner Skeptic&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Book:&lt;/i&gt; The Female Brain
&lt;i&gt;Commentary:&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003989.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Busy tongues&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003419.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Neuroscience in the service of sexual stereotypes&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/%7Emyl/languagelog/archives/003246.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Sex and speaking rate&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.shessuchageek.com/2006/11/06/your-hormones-are-telling-you-not-to-use-a-vibrator/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Your hormones are telling you not to use a vibrator&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Other:&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003246.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;David Brooks, cognitive neuroscientist&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>dreamer and LD:</b> I&#8217;ve come up with a couple of references and whatnot off the top of my head. If you find a better resource for this sort of thing, please let me know.</p>
<p><i>Study:</i> <a href="http://cercor.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/12/9/998" rel="nofollow">PDF File</a><br />
<i>Commentary:</i><br />
<a href="http://www.reappropriate.com/?p=497" rel="nofollow">Sexual Dimorphism and Feminism</a><br />
<a href="http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-07-05_324/" rel="nofollow">Embracing Your Inner Skeptic</a></p>
<p><i>Book:</i> The Female Brain<br />
<i>Commentary:</i><br />
<a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003989.html" rel="nofollow">Busy tongues</a><br />
<a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003419.html" rel="nofollow">Neuroscience in the service of sexual stereotypes</a><br />
<a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/%7Emyl/languagelog/archives/003246.html" rel="nofollow">Sex and speaking rate</a><br />
<a href="http://www.shessuchageek.com/2006/11/06/your-hormones-are-telling-you-not-to-use-a-vibrator/" rel="nofollow">Your hormones are telling you not to use a vibrator</a></p>
<p><i>Other:</i><br />
<a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003246.html" rel="nofollow">David Brooks, cognitive neuroscientist</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lake Desire</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-27611</link>
		<dc:creator>Lake Desire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to see these studies, too.  If they exist, they're worth looking at critically (what values situate the subjectivity of the scienctists?) because people use these supposed biological differences to justify discrimination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see these studies, too.  If they exist, they&#8217;re worth looking at critically (what values situate the subjectivity of the scienctists?) because people use these supposed biological differences to justify discrimination.</p>
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		<title>By: dreamer</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-26451</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be a pain, but can anyone cite these scientific studies which show all women's brains categorically being differently structured to all men's? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be a pain, but can anyone cite these scientific studies which show all women&#8217;s brains categorically being differently structured to all men&#8217;s? Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-16364</link>
		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cseyshere said:
"Not all women are, as the majority of female brains are biologically not geared toward hand/eye coordination and technical skills. I did not say ALL, but most. That is proven, through science, PET scans etc, that women as a whole utilize our brains differently then most men."

Utilizing the resources we have differently from men, while proven, does not mean we use them to an inferior effect. Kitting and quilting, traditionally women crafts, are can be incredibly intricate and require a great deal of both hand-eye coordination and technical skill (else there would be a spray of bloody dots from stabbed fingers instead of a pretty pattern). In my experience, there is a great deal of variation in women's and men's abilities to use our brains, and the variation among members of each sex is greater than the difference between the sexes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cseyshere said:<br />
&#8220;Not all women are, as the majority of female brains are biologically not geared toward hand/eye coordination and technical skills. I did not say ALL, but most. That is proven, through science, PET scans etc, that women as a whole utilize our brains differently then most men.&#8221;</p>
<p>Utilizing the resources we have differently from men, while proven, does not mean we use them to an inferior effect. Kitting and quilting, traditionally women crafts, are can be incredibly intricate and require a great deal of both hand-eye coordination and technical skill (else there would be a spray of bloody dots from stabbed fingers instead of a pretty pattern). In my experience, there is a great deal of variation in women&#8217;s and men&#8217;s abilities to use our brains, and the variation among members of each sex is greater than the difference between the sexes.</p>
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		<title>By: Malachi</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-15804</link>
		<dc:creator>Malachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 02:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Young boys are also drawn to females as charaters. Long before sex and lust cloud the picture. Women are just more pleasant to look at for most "

Not so fast, Casey.  Young boys may not be sexually mature, but that doesn't mean that societal ideas about sex, gender, and all that haven't affected them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Young boys are also drawn to females as charaters. Long before sex and lust cloud the picture. Women are just more pleasant to look at for most &#8221;</p>
<p>Not so fast, Casey.  Young boys may not be sexually mature, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that societal ideas about sex, gender, and all that haven&#8217;t affected them.</p>
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		<title>By: Caseyshere</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-15695</link>
		<dc:creator>Caseyshere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this all and another rather obvious culural norm is also overlooked: most women prefer looking at sexy, exotic, etc women as well.  I also do not mean homosexual women, but rather most women.  It starts as very young girls, who we could argue as "asexual".  They prefer women characitures.  Disney Princesses have been around for decades, why? because they are pleasing to look at.  Barbie as well.  Males do not have a matching "icon".  Young boys are also drawn to females as charaters.  Long before sex and lust cloud the picture.  Women are just more pleasant to look at for most people.

And I believe that women gamers were initially gamers not because they were unattractive or geeks, but rather because they were GOOD at it.  Not all women are, as the majority of female brains are biologically not geared toward hand/eye coordination and technical skills.  I did not say ALL, but most.  That is proven, through science, PET scans etc, that women as a whole utilize our brains differently then most men.  

Accepting women as DIFFERENT is not stereotyping, but rather is embracing the fact that women ARE different, we are NOT men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this all and another rather obvious culural norm is also overlooked: most women prefer looking at sexy, exotic, etc women as well.  I also do not mean homosexual women, but rather most women.  It starts as very young girls, who we could argue as &#8220;asexual&#8221;.  They prefer women characitures.  Disney Princesses have been around for decades, why? because they are pleasing to look at.  Barbie as well.  Males do not have a matching &#8220;icon&#8221;.  Young boys are also drawn to females as charaters.  Long before sex and lust cloud the picture.  Women are just more pleasant to look at for most people.</p>
<p>And I believe that women gamers were initially gamers not because they were unattractive or geeks, but rather because they were GOOD at it.  Not all women are, as the majority of female brains are biologically not geared toward hand/eye coordination and technical skills.  I did not say ALL, but most.  That is proven, through science, PET scans etc, that women as a whole utilize our brains differently then most men.  </p>
<p>Accepting women as DIFFERENT is not stereotyping, but rather is embracing the fact that women ARE different, we are NOT men.</p>
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		<title>By: Godless Heathen</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-14861</link>
		<dc:creator>Godless Heathen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1hwb5yGZZQ&#38;eurl=" rel="nofollow"&gt;this ad they played on G4&lt;/a&gt; and it made me think of these articles.  The very girly girl representing the console that's being marketed to casual gamers verses the geeky girl marketing the hardcore gamerness of the Playstation 3.  There are a lot of layers to that beyond the obvious, including the implication that the girly girl has no substance and you'll tire of her quickly (she's supposed to represent the Wii but she also represents the casual but hot female gamer).  Yes, I realize these are Mac vs PC commercial parodies, but the Mac guy never fondles himself and giggles like the Wii girl does so I'm willing to see them out of that context for a bit.

Not only is the little video coded for men to remind them of the false dichotomy, remember G4 is a channel for gamers, so female gamers who are watching also get a dose of the message "remember, girly gamers are ruining your cred".  Nevermind that your gamer creds are decided without your input by men who find you hawt or not, we're supposed to believe that it's other women who somehow wreck our chances of being taken seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1hwb5yGZZQ&amp;eurl=" rel="nofollow">this ad they played on G4</a> and it made me think of these articles.  The very girly girl representing the console that&#8217;s being marketed to casual gamers verses the geeky girl marketing the hardcore gamerness of the Playstation 3.  There are a lot of layers to that beyond the obvious, including the implication that the girly girl has no substance and you&#8217;ll tire of her quickly (she&#8217;s supposed to represent the Wii but she also represents the casual but hot female gamer).  Yes, I realize these are Mac vs PC commercial parodies, but the Mac guy never fondles himself and giggles like the Wii girl does so I&#8217;m willing to see them out of that context for a bit.</p>
<p>Not only is the little video coded for men to remind them of the false dichotomy, remember G4 is a channel for gamers, so female gamers who are watching also get a dose of the message &#8220;remember, girly gamers are ruining your cred&#8221;.  Nevermind that your gamer creds are decided without your input by men who find you hawt or not, we&#8217;re supposed to believe that it&#8217;s other women who somehow wreck our chances of being taken seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: arielladrake</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-14738</link>
		<dc:creator>arielladrake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;BrainFromArous:&lt;/b&gt;

There's a difference between saying "most humans walk upright" and "humans walk upright". To go back to your original comment, you talk about the 'fact' that "men like looking at attractive women", and justify that formulation by saying that most men fit such a description. It is not me 'wishing it so' that makes your classification a dismissal of the exceptions. That's a function of classification.

"Humans walk upright" as a classification statement, does actually carry the assumption that not walking upright = not human, regardless of how much you wish to pretend it doesn't. "Most humans walk upright" indicates the 'primary' locomotive mode of human beings without rendering exceptions invisible and invalid. The latter does not justify the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>BrainFromArous:</b></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference between saying &#8220;most humans walk upright&#8221; and &#8220;humans walk upright&#8221;. To go back to your original comment, you talk about the &#8216;fact&#8217; that &#8220;men like looking at attractive women&#8221;, and justify that formulation by saying that most men fit such a description. It is not me &#8216;wishing it so&#8217; that makes your classification a dismissal of the exceptions. That&#8217;s a function of classification.</p>
<p>&#8220;Humans walk upright&#8221; as a classification statement, does actually carry the assumption that not walking upright = not human, regardless of how much you wish to pretend it doesn&#8217;t. &#8220;Most humans walk upright&#8221; indicates the &#8216;primary&#8217; locomotive mode of human beings without rendering exceptions invisible and invalid. The latter does not justify the former.</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-14681</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;BrainFromArous:&lt;/b&gt; Please review the Discussion Rules. Your assertions break the "Donâ€™t State Stereotypes as Facts" rule.

You are making sweeping generalizations about "natural" human behaviour that support established stereotypes as if they are accepted fact. They are not.

If you wish to discuss possible traits of human beings, you must at the very least state your sources. And furthermore (as has been pointed out to you twice) stating them as such is dissmissive and contributes to a society in which groups that don't conform to these standards are erased from view. This blog is an &lt;b&gt;anti-oppression&lt;/b&gt; blog, which means that when you're told to consider how your views contribute to the oppression of others &lt;b&gt;you do just that&lt;/b&gt;.

I also advise you to check out the new rule on what to do when told to check your privilege. You've already had your warning about privilege, and if you are told to check it again and respond with something such as " I'm no more asserting my 'privilege' than you are," then your comment will be deleted.

I am pretty sure that you are commenting here to engage in an exchange of ideas and information. To do that you need to be willing to think and learn as much as you're willing to express your ideas and point of view. Challenging privilege is an integral part of that (at least on this blog), and responding with a defensive "no I'm not!" reaction to being told to check your privilege without thinking about what people have been saying is simply not acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>BrainFromArous:</b> Please review the Discussion Rules. Your assertions break the &#8220;Donâ€™t State Stereotypes as Facts&#8221; rule.</p>
<p>You are making sweeping generalizations about &#8220;natural&#8221; human behaviour that support established stereotypes as if they are accepted fact. They are not.</p>
<p>If you wish to discuss possible traits of human beings, you must at the very least state your sources. And furthermore (as has been pointed out to you twice) stating them as such is dissmissive and contributes to a society in which groups that don&#8217;t conform to these standards are erased from view. This blog is an <b>anti-oppression</b> blog, which means that when you&#8217;re told to consider how your views contribute to the oppression of others <b>you do just that</b>.</p>
<p>I also advise you to check out the new rule on what to do when told to check your privilege. You&#8217;ve already had your warning about privilege, and if you are told to check it again and respond with something such as &#8221; I&#8217;m no more asserting my &#8216;privilege&#8217; than you are,&#8221; then your comment will be deleted.</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that you are commenting here to engage in an exchange of ideas and information. To do that you need to be willing to think and learn as much as you&#8217;re willing to express your ideas and point of view. Challenging privilege is an integral part of that (at least on this blog), and responding with a defensive &#8220;no I&#8217;m not!&#8221; reaction to being told to check your privilege without thinking about what people have been saying is simply not acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: BrainFromArous</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-11-29_457#comment-14587</link>
		<dc:creator>BrainFromArous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I donâ€™t think itâ€™s quite so simple as â€˜our sexual feelings are biological and what we do about them is socially informedâ€™. Thereâ€™s a socially informed component to our sexual feelings, also. Not to mention that the entire paragraph above seems to be treating â€˜attractive femalesâ€™ as some kind of natural category. And this is the thing."

They are a natural category the same way food is. Sexual interest, like hunger, is a biological imperative - that for food is far stronger, 'natch - which is "informed" by culture and socialization. Informed by, not created by. The utility to marketers of pandering sexist tripe like Miss Video Game, booth babes and the like is that they are guaranteed a certain level of attention from the lads. The marketers have but to provide the sexual spectacle; that their (straight, male) audience will respond to it is taken for granted just as restaurants take for granted that you will, at some point, be hungry. Their task is not to invent or engineer hunger, but merely to convince you to sate it with what they're selling.

"Whatâ€™s â€˜attractiveâ€™ is socially informed, so to say that itâ€™s some kind of biological fact that men like to look at attractive women is really to say that men are biologically wired to buy into a socially informed beauty standard. And, well, I have a feeling thatâ€™s not really what you were intending."

I agree that it's socially informed, to a point. (Anthropologists have found some interesting universals regarding the preference for youth, clear skin, symmetrical faces and so on, but that's another discussion.) But here again we are talking about the cultivation and manipulation of desires already present, not the ex nihilo creation of something heretofore absent. I agree that there is great subjectivity and variance in what is considered "sexy" but it's a non sequiter to claim therefore that the interest in "sexiness" is NOT based in biology.

"Even if we assume the above is true (and thatâ€™s a big assumption), thereâ€™s no reason for such categorisation to take place outside of scientific discussion (if it even has a place there), and certainly no place for such blanket categorisation within discussions about anti-oppression work, which I might remind you is precisely where you are."

Ok, this entire statement is puzzling. First: Which one is the "big assumption" - that walking upright is the primary locomotive mode of the human animal or that exceptions do not invalidate categorization? Second: Why would  the consideration of valid general claims about phenomena NOT have a place in scientific discussion, or beyond it? Third: Why wouldn't "anti-oppression work" include the understanding of generalities or, indeed, innate attributes when they are relevent? 

"Because what such categorisation does is that it places the majority case not just as the majority, but as the standard, which says to those â€œexceptionsâ€, as you call them, that theyâ€™re not valid, and, at times, that they donâ€™t count as human."

Only if you wish it to. Example: Left-handedness is not the standard; the majority of people are right-handed. Southpaws are exceptional. Those are valid, categorical statements that have precisely ZERO to say about the worth or humanity of the left-handed. I'm well aware that people love to load simple statistical terms like "normal" with all manner of moral and cultural baggage. Many do so deliberately because of their irrational fear of those who are different - your "exceptions." That is not the case with either of us, I trust, and there is no reason why you and I should have to treat the concepts of categories, deviance, prediction and so forth like some kind of contaminated radiation zone.

"Kindly, check your privilege. The â€œexceptionsâ€ youâ€™re dismissing from your standard are actual living people, and it would do you well to remember that."

I'm not "dismissing" anyone. I'm no more asserting "privilege" than you are. I reject the 'classification = exclusion = oppression' formula because I think such equations are simply wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t think itâ€™s quite so simple as â€˜our sexual feelings are biological and what we do about them is socially informedâ€™. Thereâ€™s a socially informed component to our sexual feelings, also. Not to mention that the entire paragraph above seems to be treating â€˜attractive femalesâ€™ as some kind of natural category. And this is the thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>They are a natural category the same way food is. Sexual interest, like hunger, is a biological imperative - that for food is far stronger, &#8216;natch - which is &#8220;informed&#8221; by culture and socialization. Informed by, not created by. The utility to marketers of pandering sexist tripe like Miss Video Game, booth babes and the like is that they are guaranteed a certain level of attention from the lads. The marketers have but to provide the sexual spectacle; that their (straight, male) audience will respond to it is taken for granted just as restaurants take for granted that you will, at some point, be hungry. Their task is not to invent or engineer hunger, but merely to convince you to sate it with what they&#8217;re selling.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whatâ€™s â€˜attractiveâ€™ is socially informed, so to say that itâ€™s some kind of biological fact that men like to look at attractive women is really to say that men are biologically wired to buy into a socially informed beauty standard. And, well, I have a feeling thatâ€™s not really what you were intending.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s socially informed, to a point. (Anthropologists have found some interesting universals regarding the preference for youth, clear skin, symmetrical faces and so on, but that&#8217;s another discussion.) But here again we are talking about the cultivation and manipulation of desires already present, not the ex nihilo creation of something heretofore absent. I agree that there is great subjectivity and variance in what is considered &#8220;sexy&#8221; but it&#8217;s a non sequiter to claim therefore that the interest in &#8220;sexiness&#8221; is NOT based in biology.</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if we assume the above is true (and thatâ€™s a big assumption), thereâ€™s no reason for such categorisation to take place outside of scientific discussion (if it even has a place there), and certainly no place for such blanket categorisation within discussions about anti-oppression work, which I might remind you is precisely where you are.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok, this entire statement is puzzling. First: Which one is the &#8220;big assumption&#8221; - that walking upright is the primary locomotive mode of the human animal or that exceptions do not invalidate categorization? Second: Why would  the consideration of valid general claims about phenomena NOT have a place in scientific discussion, or beyond it? Third: Why wouldn&#8217;t &#8220;anti-oppression work&#8221; include the understanding of generalities or, indeed, innate attributes when they are relevent? </p>
<p>&#8220;Because what such categorisation does is that it places the majority case not just as the majority, but as the standard, which says to those â€œexceptionsâ€, as you call them, that theyâ€™re not valid, and, at times, that they donâ€™t count as human.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only if you wish it to. Example: Left-handedness is not the standard; the majority of people are right-handed. Southpaws are exceptional. Those are valid, categorical statements that have precisely ZERO to say about the worth or humanity of the left-handed. I&#8217;m well aware that people love to load simple statistical terms like &#8220;normal&#8221; with all manner of moral and cultural baggage. Many do so deliberately because of their irrational fear of those who are different - your &#8220;exceptions.&#8221; That is not the case with either of us, I trust, and there is no reason why you and I should have to treat the concepts of categories, deviance, prediction and so forth like some kind of contaminated radiation zone.</p>
<p>&#8220;Kindly, check your privilege. The â€œexceptionsâ€ youâ€™re dismissing from your standard are actual living people, and it would do you well to remember that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not &#8220;dismissing&#8221; anyone. I&#8217;m no more asserting &#8220;privilege&#8221; than you are. I reject the &#8216;classification = exclusion = oppression&#8217; formula because I think such equations are simply wrong.</p>
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