Comments on: To all feminists: Stop using the word “choice feminism”! http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401 Because we care about stuff Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:38:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Official Shrub.com Blog » Blog Archive » Because the only women who matter are white ones http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-171028 Official Shrub.com Blog » Blog Archive » Because the only women who matter are white ones Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:50:29 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-171028 [...] who, on top of thinking of herself as the matriarch of all women/feminists is responsible for making up the term “choice feminist” so she could have a convenient strawfeminist to attack — thinks she knows what’s [...] [...] who, on top of thinking of herself as the matriarch of all women/feminists is responsible for making up the term “choice feminist” so she could have a convenient strawfeminist to attack — thinks she knows what’s [...]

]]> By: Sandy D. http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-3019 Sandy D. Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:06:17 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-3019 Ironically, many of the women that Hirshman flagellates for failing feminism by "opting out" may have little "choice" in the matter (because of the high cost of childcare, lack of flexibility in their career, and their partner's higher wages). I ranted about her use of "choice" at length in my book review <a href="http://imponderabilia.blogspot.com/2006/09/get-to-work-book-review.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Ironically, many of the women that Hirshman flagellates for failing feminism by “opting out” may have little “choice” in the matter (because of the high cost of childcare, lack of flexibility in their career, and their partner’s higher wages). I ranted about her use of “choice” at length in my book review here.

]]> By: belledame222 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2801 belledame222 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 02:42:47 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2801 Oh, bless you for this. I'd had no idea Hirschman coined it; i just always thought it was bloody stupid. What does this -mean?- I-feminism? Then call it that. Libertarian feminism? Call it that. Existentialist feminism? A who? -crickets- ...yeah. Or is it: "Feminism in which women not only make personal choices which i don't approve of and/or make me uncomfortable for whatever reason, but apparently refuse to heap or even accept 'bad feminist' ashes and sackcloth on their heads for it! Maybe even freely cop to LIKING what they do! WITHOUT guilt!" I mean, more seriously: if your argument is -truly- that there IS no such thing as choice, why even bother? And if your argument is that there ARE choices but some choices are better than others, just frigging come right out and say it, you know? At least that way there's something to work with. Oh, bless you for this. I’d had no idea Hirschman coined it; i just always thought it was bloody stupid. What does this -mean?- I-feminism? Then call it that. Libertarian feminism? Call it that. Existentialist feminism? A who?

-crickets-

…yeah.

Or is it: “Feminism in which women not only make personal choices which i don’t approve of and/or make me uncomfortable for whatever reason, but apparently refuse to heap or even accept ‘bad feminist’ ashes and sackcloth on their heads for it! Maybe even freely cop to LIKING what they do! WITHOUT guilt!”

I mean, more seriously: if your argument is -truly- that there IS no such thing as choice, why even bother?

And if your argument is that there ARE choices but some choices are better than others, just frigging come right out and say it, you know? At least that way there’s something to work with.

]]> By: beepbeepitsme http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2763 beepbeepitsme Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:29:55 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2763 RE: feminism Five Things Feminism Has Done For Me http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/10/five-things-feminism-has-done-for-me.html RE: feminism
Five Things Feminism Has Done For Me
http://beepbeepitsme.blogspot.com/2006/10/five-things-feminism-has-done-for-me.html

]]> By: arielladrake http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2486 arielladrake Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:01:15 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2486 AC was someone on LJ (linked to at least one person involved with G-W in the early-ish period) who had a bit of a lob at the G-W people for being whiny, zealot-ish and not presenting the material in a way that suited her. I don't specifically recall her using feminazi, but she's locked down her original post, so I can't be certain, and given the rest of her criticism, I wouldn't be surprised. AC was someone on LJ (linked to at least one person involved with G-W in the early-ish period) who had a bit of a lob at the G-W people for being whiny, zealot-ish and not presenting the material in a way that suited her. I don’t specifically recall her using feminazi, but she’s locked down her original post, so I can’t be certain, and given the rest of her criticism, I wouldn’t be surprised.

]]> By: tekanji http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2477 tekanji Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:07:06 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2477 Who's Admiral Chowder? And the GW girls? Feminazis??? Ahahaha ha ha ha ha. Ha. *wipes the tears of laughter from her face* Who’s Admiral Chowder? And the GW girls? Feminazis??? Ahahaha ha ha ha ha. Ha. *wipes the tears of laughter from her face*

]]> By: beste http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2476 beste Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:03:32 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2476 I do remember that Admiral Chowder got so angry that she used the term 'feminazi' to describe the girls at girlwonder.com. I do remember that Admiral Chowder got so angry that she used the term ‘feminazi’ to describe the girls at girlwonder.com.

]]> By: Mickle http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2454 Mickle Sun, 01 Oct 2006 08:33:11 +0000 http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-09-30_401#comment-2454 I didn't realize Hirschman came up with the term - and that she was actually referring to "real" feminists. (Because I'm a dork, apparently) I thought the term meant something different. As in, there are no "choice feminists" - just people who attack feminism by pretending it's all about choice, and use this fake "choice feminism" to argue that feminists are inconsistent or that feminist movements are no longer needed. I didn’t realize Hirschman came up with the term - and that she was actually referring to “real” feminists. (Because I’m a dork, apparently) I thought the term meant something different. As in, there are no “choice feminists” - just people who attack feminism by pretending it’s all about choice, and use this fake “choice feminism” to argue that feminists are inconsistent or that feminist movements are no longer needed.

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