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		<title>By: The Strange Credibility of Polyamory &#171; freaksexual</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-142174</link>
		<dc:creator>The Strange Credibility of Polyamory &#171; freaksexual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Polyamory is mentioned positively on well-known feminist blogs, for example here, here, here, and here. Polyamory is generally met with curiosity and tolerance on these blogs, even when the writers do [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Polyamory is mentioned positively on well-known feminist blogs, for example here, here, here, and here. Polyamory is generally met with curiosity and tolerance on these blogs, even when the writers do [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sewere</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-1415</link>
		<dc:creator>Sewere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to thank you for putting words to what I&#039;ve been grappling with for years. I grew up in Nigeria (where male-centered/chauvinist polygamy is practiced and promoted) and I remember hearing after many years that one of my mom&#039;s dearest friends was a 2nd or 3rd wife. Well Momma, being the thinker she pushes me to be, told me her friend (a fairly independent and wealthy woman) had been trying to have a family and wanted to have kids for a while but couldn&#039;t find the right guy. This friend later found a guy who was open to having giving her a family. The dude performed the duties and all that society approved stuff, but she kept and ran her own home. Even though, I still think she had to resort to submitting herself to society&#039;s idea of marriage and family, she was still able to hold some power in how she built her own home. 

Just an interesting article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to thank you for putting words to what I&#8217;ve been grappling with for years. I grew up in Nigeria (where male-centered/chauvinist polygamy is practiced and promoted) and I remember hearing after many years that one of my mom&#8217;s dearest friends was a 2nd or 3rd wife. Well Momma, being the thinker she pushes me to be, told me her friend (a fairly independent and wealthy woman) had been trying to have a family and wanted to have kids for a while but couldn&#8217;t find the right guy. This friend later found a guy who was open to having giving her a family. The dude performed the duties and all that society approved stuff, but she kept and ran her own home. Even though, I still think she had to resort to submitting herself to society&#8217;s idea of marriage and family, she was still able to hold some power in how she built her own home. </p>
<p>Just an interesting article.</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I was kind of worried that it didn&#039;t get into the issues enough, but at the same time I didn&#039;t want to lose the point by getting bogged down by the minutia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I was kind of worried that it didn&#8217;t get into the issues enough, but at the same time I didn&#8217;t want to lose the point by getting bogged down by the minutia.</p>
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		<title>By: EL</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>EL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE LOVE LOVE this post.  One of my pet issues, but framed so cogently, considered so thoroughly.  Serious serious props, tekanji.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE LOVE LOVE this post.  One of my pet issues, but framed so cogently, considered so thoroughly.  Serious serious props, tekanji.</p>
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		<title>By: real men are not &#187; Blog Archive &#187; That&#8217;s the jam</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>real men are not &#187; Blog Archive &#187; That&#8217;s the jam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 07:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &gt;&gt;Last quarter in one class, I was witness to one of the single worst presentation in my academic career: It was on polygamy and non-traditional family structures and let me tell you, this mini-presentation was a complete and utter mess. The woman just spewed stereotype after stereotype AND (nothing to do with her presentation) she always slept during class IN THE FRONT ROW, bah! Anyways, Tekanji at Shrub.com comes in with a bases-loaded home-run with her post on the subject. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &gt;&gt;Last quarter in one class, I was witness to one of the single worst presentation in my academic career: It was on polygamy and non-traditional family structures and let me tell you, this mini-presentation was a complete and utter mess. The woman just spewed stereotype after stereotype AND (nothing to do with her presentation) she always slept during class IN THE FRONT ROW, bah! Anyways, Tekanji at Shrub.com comes in with a bases-loaded home-run with her post on the subject. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 100littledolls</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-1268</link>
		<dc:creator>100littledolls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll never forget how the professor of my first women&#039;s studies class announced to us that &quot;monogamy is bullshit.&quot; Everyone balked.

A friend of mine who was married is polyamorous--she lost a lot of friends and her husband when she came out.  She&#039;s much happier now, but it was hard to see her suffer and lose loved ones because she was honest about her sexuality.

Like many people, I grew up with the assumption that polygamy and polyamory = cheating.  I&#039;m glad to have those blinders off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll never forget how the professor of my first women&#8217;s studies class announced to us that &#8220;monogamy is bullshit.&#8221; Everyone balked.</p>
<p>A friend of mine who was married is polyamorous&#8211;she lost a lot of friends and her husband when she came out.  She&#8217;s much happier now, but it was hard to see her suffer and lose loved ones because she was honest about her sexuality.</p>
<p>Like many people, I grew up with the assumption that polygamy and polyamory = cheating.  I&#8217;m glad to have those blinders off.</p>
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		<title>By: Libertine</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-1267</link>
		<dc:creator>Libertine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 07:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post!  I&#039;ve recently been beating my head against the wall on a LIBERAL forum trying to get the members there to see some of the very same points you&#039;re making here.  

It&#039;s a mistake to judge all forms of multi partner relationships by the fringe extremes.  Critics point to the patriarchal, fundamentalist polygynists as being typical of all such relationships.  But such critics would not judge monogamy in its entirety by pointing to abusive, violent marriages as being typical.  They have the wrong focus.  Instead of seeing that the problem is the fundamentalism and the patriarchy, they lay the blame on the relationship form.

I am nonmonogamous, a libertine -- my relationship life consists mainly of having several casual, &quot;friends with benefits&quot;, but I&#039;m essentially emotionally independent.  I&#039;m honest about how I live right up front, and it&#039;s worked well for me for more than 30 years. 

Thanks for this post -- I&#039;m going to link to it in my nonmonogamy links list on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post!  I&#8217;ve recently been beating my head against the wall on a LIBERAL forum trying to get the members there to see some of the very same points you&#8217;re making here.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mistake to judge all forms of multi partner relationships by the fringe extremes.  Critics point to the patriarchal, fundamentalist polygynists as being typical of all such relationships.  But such critics would not judge monogamy in its entirety by pointing to abusive, violent marriages as being typical.  They have the wrong focus.  Instead of seeing that the problem is the fundamentalism and the patriarchy, they lay the blame on the relationship form.</p>
<p>I am nonmonogamous, a libertine &#8212; my relationship life consists mainly of having several casual, &#8220;friends with benefits&#8221;, but I&#8217;m essentially emotionally independent.  I&#8217;m honest about how I live right up front, and it&#8217;s worked well for me for more than 30 years. </p>
<p>Thanks for this post &#8212; I&#8217;m going to link to it in my nonmonogamy links list on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-06-09_286/comment-page-1#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you enjoyed it :) I feel like there&#039;s so much more to say on the issue, but I didn&#039;t want to get rambly and lose my main point...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed it <img src='http://blog.shrub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I feel like there&#8217;s so much more to say on the issue, but I didn&#8217;t want to get rambly and lose my main point&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Aster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Aster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 05:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you immensely!  I agree entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you immensely!  I agree entirely.</p>
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