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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s not rape if they don&#8217;t say no (this time)</title>
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		<title>By: Lake Desire</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-04-28_217#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>Lake Desire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 03:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm also from Washington.  I currently live in Bellingham.  We ought to have a bloggy meet-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also from Washington.  I currently live in Bellingham.  We ought to have a bloggy meet-up.</p>
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		<title>By: spotted elephant</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-04-28_217#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>spotted elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She said no.  End of discussion: it's rape.

The fact that he was drunk enough to go back and assault a different woman does NOT change anything.  Now he's harmed *two* women.

It would be nice to have laws protecting the victim, but that's tough for me to even imagine at this point.  First, we'd have to take rape seriously.

Aside: I didn't know you called WA your home state.  I'm north of Seattle. (waves) In the blogoshpere, that makes us neighbors. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She said no.  End of discussion: it&#8217;s rape.</p>
<p>The fact that he was drunk enough to go back and assault a different woman does NOT change anything.  Now he&#8217;s harmed *two* women.</p>
<p>It would be nice to have laws protecting the victim, but that&#8217;s tough for me to even imagine at this point.  First, we&#8217;d have to take rape seriously.</p>
<p>Aside: I didn&#8217;t know you called WA your home state.  I&#8217;m north of Seattle. (waves) In the blogoshpere, that makes us neighbors. <img src='http://blog.shrub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Loosely Twisted</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2006-04-28_217#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Loosely Twisted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i read the discussion over there, I had some serious concerns, though I snark..   But what if laws could be enacted that protected the victum?  It's definately rape.  No questions, his intentions to rape the Editor were clear.  But what if you could penalize him for 1. Drunkness, 2. Did he use protection?  AIDS and STD's are getting down right serious here.. What if this one sex act could give her all sorts of things from this stranger? Being drunk you know he didn't use protection!  She thought he was her boyfriend, and there fore didn't insist on protection, not that she could anyway. 

And if you combined those two together, wouldn't you have something like voluntary manslaughter? (humeslaughter?)  Trying to use new pronouns for others comfort.   But these issues bring in a new light they could use in rape trials.

or more discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i read the discussion over there, I had some serious concerns, though I snark..   But what if laws could be enacted that protected the victum?  It&#8217;s definately rape.  No questions, his intentions to rape the Editor were clear.  But what if you could penalize him for 1. Drunkness, 2. Did he use protection?  AIDS and STD&#8217;s are getting down right serious here.. What if this one sex act could give her all sorts of things from this stranger? Being drunk you know he didn&#8217;t use protection!  She thought he was her boyfriend, and there fore didn&#8217;t insist on protection, not that she could anyway. </p>
<p>And if you combined those two together, wouldn&#8217;t you have something like voluntary manslaughter? (humeslaughter?)  Trying to use new pronouns for others comfort.   But these issues bring in a new light they could use in rape trials.</p>
<p>or more discussion.</p>
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