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	<title>Comments on: On Being An Oversensitive, Man-Hating, Embarassing Feminist/Progressive/Whatever</title>
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		<title>By: philly jay</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-10-06_61#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>philly jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2005 01:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I had to reload the page to get a different code to post.No matter what variations I used it always came out wrong)

Anyway, there was no denial of views, or disrespect giving when I made thoae post.I mean really if I was to seriously be disrespectful, I would just dismiss/look down on any liberal or progressive argument simply because it's liberal and progressive.I disagreed with a specific thing.

Here is what I wrote:

"First off, I didn't say I don't see republicans treating others minorties as less then at all, period.I don't know if you guys read me wrong or what, Sheldiz seems to be the only one who got what I was trying to say.

What I'm trying to say is that the republican party does not view minorities as subhumans.That's all.You can find examples of indivisual republicans doing what you describe but as a whole they're not.You can do the same for democrats, liberals, and progressives.I'm not downplaying any issue, I'm not making priviledged statements, I'm not denying oppression, or saying "see they do it too!" to dissmiss an argument."

whether it's progressive or conservative, I don't like big generalizations about either especially when it comes to how minorities are viewed and treated. I don't know, call me oversensitive or whatever.</description>
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<p>Anyway, there was no denial of views, or disrespect giving when I made thoae post.I mean really if I was to seriously be disrespectful, I would just dismiss/look down on any liberal or progressive argument simply because it&#8217;s liberal and progressive.I disagreed with a specific thing.</p>
<p>Here is what I wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;First off, I didn&#8217;t say I don&#8217;t see republicans treating others minorties as less then at all, period.I don&#8217;t know if you guys read me wrong or what, Sheldiz seems to be the only one who got what I was trying to say.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m trying to say is that the republican party does not view minorities as subhumans.That&#8217;s all.You can find examples of indivisual republicans doing what you describe but as a whole they&#8217;re not.You can do the same for democrats, liberals, and progressives.I&#8217;m not downplaying any issue, I&#8217;m not making priviledged statements, I&#8217;m not denying oppression, or saying &#8220;see they do it too!&#8221; to dissmiss an argument.&#8221;</p>
<p>whether it&#8217;s progressive or conservative, I don&#8217;t like big generalizations about either especially when it comes to how minorities are viewed and treated. I don&#8217;t know, call me oversensitive or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-10-06_61#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 13:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;(ugh, 2nd time writing this out since it gave me and error)&lt;/i&gt;

Did you have a problem with the AuthImage code? It handles incorrect input really badly, but I haven't had the time to go into the code and write a better way yet.

&lt;i&gt;And just to add, I hope that the criticism conservatives have of liberals and progressives and their ideas, is given the same respect.&lt;/i&gt;

Of course. But, it sort of misses the whole thrust of the post if you have to ask that. One of the main point of this post was that both sides should give each other respect and consideration, no matter the ideological differences. 

My beef with the kind of argument I felt you were using at Jenn's blog was that it's disrespectful to deny the validity of others' experiences just because you don't share them. And yeah, our debate was kept in mind for that section but was not in any way limited to it. I've actually run into forms of that argument in several different forums. Yours just happened to have been the most recent.

I can't check your response to me on Jenn's blog right now because reappropriate seems to be down, at least in my neck of the woods. I've been having &lt;i&gt;lots&lt;/i&gt; of issues with random websites going down, while everything else works, for no good reason. Mom thinks it's a trunk line issue, which happened to her a lot when she still lived in Miami, but hardly ever happens in the west coast. 

Anyway, so since I can't yet read what you wrote I'm going to refrain from addressing the issue further here lest I misrepresent your arguments and frustrate us both. Thank you for your comment, yadda yadda yadda ;)</description>
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<p>Did you have a problem with the AuthImage code? It handles incorrect input really badly, but I haven&#8217;t had the time to go into the code and write a better way yet.</p>
<p><i>And just to add, I hope that the criticism conservatives have of liberals and progressives and their ideas, is given the same respect.</i></p>
<p>Of course. But, it sort of misses the whole thrust of the post if you have to ask that. One of the main point of this post was that both sides should give each other respect and consideration, no matter the ideological differences. </p>
<p>My beef with the kind of argument I felt you were using at Jenn&#8217;s blog was that it&#8217;s disrespectful to deny the validity of others&#8217; experiences just because you don&#8217;t share them. And yeah, our debate was kept in mind for that section but was not in any way limited to it. I&#8217;ve actually run into forms of that argument in several different forums. Yours just happened to have been the most recent.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t check your response to me on Jenn&#8217;s blog right now because reappropriate seems to be down, at least in my neck of the woods. I&#8217;ve been having <i>lots</i> of issues with random websites going down, while everything else works, for no good reason. Mom thinks it&#8217;s a trunk line issue, which happened to her a lot when she still lived in Miami, but hardly ever happens in the west coast. </p>
<p>Anyway, so since I can&#8217;t yet read what you wrote I&#8217;m going to refrain from addressing the issue further here lest I misrepresent your arguments and frustrate us both. Thank you for your comment, yadda yadda yadda <img src='http://blog.shrub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: philly jay</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-10-06_61#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>philly jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2005 11:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(ugh, 2nd time writing this out since it gave me and error)

I replyed to your post on Jen's blog.It seems we have a different view when it comes to issues like oppression and privilege.I don't know if our definition of it is different or what.I'm guessing I'm one of the people you are describing in your post above. 

And just to add, I hope that the criticism conservatives have of liberals and progressives and their ideas, is given the same respect.</description>
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<p>I replyed to your post on Jen&#8217;s blog.It seems we have a different view when it comes to issues like oppression and privilege.I don&#8217;t know if our definition of it is different or what.I&#8217;m guessing I&#8217;m one of the people you are describing in your post above. </p>
<p>And just to add, I hope that the criticism conservatives have of liberals and progressives and their ideas, is given the same respect.</p>
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