http://www.online-dating-rights.com/forum/index.php

The irony is that the fight between the feminists and MRA’s is over restrictions on communications between American men and “non-feminist” foreign women as these men are attempting to avoid American feminist women.

2) Although this is a dead thread, your “serious point” is not related to the overall point I was trying to make and therefore I don’t see why I shouldn’t treat it as an attempt to de-rail the thread.

3) You’re toeing the line of acceptability with your condescending tone, blatant disrespect of my beliefs, and privileged attitude (coming onto my blogspace and acting like I owe you answers to anything). This is your one, and only, warning. Any further post written in the style of the two above will be deleted.

If you want to discuss something relevant to the thread, then make your case in a polite way. Keep in mind, however, that this is not a discussion board. This is my space and if you can’t play nice with me then I have no problem not letting you play at all.

The point, however, is serious. And unlike a bubble, it will not pop and vanish….

On what irrefutable moral foundation or infallible chain of demonstration are we compelled to acknowledge “patriarchy” as a valid data model?

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(Drumming my fingers on the table top, to the accompaniment of a ticking clock across the empty, ice-cold room…….)

And, don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that there’s nothing good about MRA groups or individuals. The discussion on Hugo’s blog ended up focusing on abuse and support networks for victims. Many of the MRA’s who spoke up were victims of abuse and had been treated badly when seeking help. I was aruging that their experiences, while valid, did not mean that they should demonize an entire movement (feminism).

Many of them were involved with setting up shelters and hotlines and stuff for male victims. I think that’s great, especially since one of the arguments that feminsts use in regards to male victims in women’s shelters is that men should set up their own safe spaces. I see the rationale behind the feminist argument, though sometimes I think the delivery was hostile rather than helpful. I absolutely support safe spaces that are tailored to support the particular victim in question, and I think it would be great if on a macro level all kinds of shelters could work together to provide greater understanding and support for all victims.

I guess what I want is for everyone to be able to work together to achieve equal opportunities and rights for all.