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	<title>Comments on: Goodbye WoW, hello disappointment</title>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-08-03_26#comment-170790</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Qit el-Remel said:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Did you, by any chance, try reporting the harassment? As I have stated earlier, it’s been my experience that they do take such reports seriously. (Especially if you quote the entire offending text in your GM ticket.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And what would they have done if I had? For the invasive tells, they would have said to use the /ignore function (which I already did; it doesn't really do much when the /tells come from different people every time). For the crap over the general chat channel, assuming I wasn't told that it was none of my business they would be more likely to tell me to turn off my chat channels (which is what I eventually had to do). And for the in-guild stuff, I felt that it was a guild matter that should be handled internally.

Was I wrong? Maybe. But the lack of proper moderation on the forums informed my decision in part. If Blizzard doesn't bother to uphold its clearly stated guidelines on its own forums, why would I expect in-game GM's to do so?

My mom did report harassment once. The GM said that he would deal with it, but refused to tell her what kind of action was/would be taken. On a whim, my mother put the harasser on her friends list for the week to see if his account got suspended or something. Since he didn't log off after she informed the GM and he logged on the next day, it doesn't look as if the harassing player was dealt with very seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Qit el-Remel said:</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Did you, by any chance, try reporting the harassment? As I have stated earlier, it’s been my experience that they do take such reports seriously. (Especially if you quote the entire offending text in your GM ticket.)</p></blockquote>
<p>And what would they have done if I had? For the invasive tells, they would have said to use the /ignore function (which I already did; it doesn&#8217;t really do much when the /tells come from different people every time). For the crap over the general chat channel, assuming I wasn&#8217;t told that it was none of my business they would be more likely to tell me to turn off my chat channels (which is what I eventually had to do). And for the in-guild stuff, I felt that it was a guild matter that should be handled internally.</p>
<p>Was I wrong? Maybe. But the lack of proper moderation on the forums informed my decision in part. If Blizzard doesn&#8217;t bother to uphold its clearly stated guidelines on its own forums, why would I expect in-game GM&#8217;s to do so?</p>
<p>My mom did report harassment once. The GM said that he would deal with it, but refused to tell her what kind of action was/would be taken. On a whim, my mother put the harasser on her friends list for the week to see if his account got suspended or something. Since he didn&#8217;t log off after she informed the GM and he logged on the next day, it doesn&#8217;t look as if the harassing player was dealt with very seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Official Shrub.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; World of Warcraft: Sexist by Design?</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-08-03_26#comment-170789</link>
		<dc:creator>Official Shrub.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; World of Warcraft: Sexist by Design?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my post, Goodbye WoW, hello disappointment, I described how after a while putting up with the sexist comments ruined the game for me. It [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Qit el-Remel</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-08-03_26#comment-170766</link>
		<dc:creator>Qit el-Remel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you try using the "report harassment" function?  It's there.  The moderators can't watch everyone all the time; but I know from experience that if you *report* the harassment, they take it very seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you try using the &#8220;report harassment&#8221; function?  It&#8217;s there.  The moderators can&#8217;t watch everyone all the time; but I know from experience that if you *report* the harassment, they take it very seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-08-03_26#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see that I'm not the only one out there who was turned off by WoW's lack of interest in obtaining and maintaining a friendly community. Now that you mention the price, it seems that WoW is one of the more expensive MMOs I can think of (I'm pretty sure FFXI was 10 bucks, and I think Puzzle Pirates was in that range too), which I think puts even more onus on them to at least make a token effort to uphold their own "code of conduct". 

Also, your comment about "geeks" is interesting; being a part of both the gaming and the geek culture (they overlap, not surprisingly) I've found that the "boy's club" mentality is pretty similar. Many of the male hardcore geeks I've known had a hard time looking at women as people, although I'm not sure how much of that was the culture perpetuating itself rather than a severe lack of social skills. Saying this, I'd like to point out that most of my friends (male and female) are geeks like me so obviously we aren't a one trick breed. But, then, most of my friends are gamers, too, so the same holds true there. ^^;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see that I&#8217;m not the only one out there who was turned off by WoW&#8217;s lack of interest in obtaining and maintaining a friendly community. Now that you mention the price, it seems that WoW is one of the more expensive MMOs I can think of (I&#8217;m pretty sure FFXI was 10 bucks, and I think Puzzle Pirates was in that range too), which I think puts even more onus on them to at least make a token effort to uphold their own &#8220;code of conduct&#8221;. </p>
<p>Also, your comment about &#8220;geeks&#8221; is interesting; being a part of both the gaming and the geek culture (they overlap, not surprisingly) I&#8217;ve found that the &#8220;boy&#8217;s club&#8221; mentality is pretty similar. Many of the male hardcore geeks I&#8217;ve known had a hard time looking at women as people, although I&#8217;m not sure how much of that was the culture perpetuating itself rather than a severe lack of social skills. Saying this, I&#8217;d like to point out that most of my friends (male and female) are geeks like me so obviously we aren&#8217;t a one trick breed. But, then, most of my friends are gamers, too, so the same holds true there. ^^;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://blog.shrub.com/archives/tekanji/2005-08-03_26#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm a guy gamer and i agree with your comments. i know a few girls in WoW and they take some serious shit from immature 12 year olds. All the assholes are either geeks or kids who havent even grown hair. WoW was sort of a dissapointment, not with gameplay but also because of cheaters and deuche bags who find random reasons to make things hard on people. blizzard charges 15 fucking dollars a month so they should at least make the experience fun for everybody and boot out cheaters, sexists, hackers, and people who ruin the fun for everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a guy gamer and i agree with your comments. i know a few girls in WoW and they take some serious shit from immature 12 year olds. All the assholes are either geeks or kids who havent even grown hair. WoW was sort of a dissapointment, not with gameplay but also because of cheaters and deuche bags who find random reasons to make things hard on people. blizzard charges 15 fucking dollars a month so they should at least make the experience fun for everybody and boot out cheaters, sexists, hackers, and people who ruin the fun for everybody.</p>
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