And yet, in the 1700’s, a woman’s only choice was to marry, and marry well. Elizabeth (the Govenor’s Daughter!) in choosing to marry for love – and to a blacksmith’s apprentice and son of a pirate no less – instead of social standing shows a great deal of backbone.

Don’t forget, when she threatned Lord Cutler Beckett, she accused him of robbing her of her wedding NIGHT, not wedding DAY. She’s not a modern day bridezilla whining about her place settings, but a woman ready to be with the one she loved. The wedding was just the means to an end.

And I think too much has been read into that phrase… anyone who had their wedding interrupted by soldiers and arrested with a death sentence, then escaped by dressing as a
boy and ending up on a pirate ship hunted by a giant sea monster should be forgiven for wishing momentarily that things had gone according to the original, simple plan. haha.

On another note, I am curious what the original posters who objected to Tia Dalma think about her true identy that is revealed in III? I’m not sure what to think…

Also, as much as Elizabeth totally rocked for most of this movie, at one point she sums up her feelings on the entire situation by saying “I just thought I’d be married by now”. I realize that the line’s in there to give Jack a chance to hit on her, and to develop the Jack/Elizabeth plotline, but… it kinda pissed me off.

Yes, that made my skin crawl. Big time. It’s all this blog’s fault.

I’m not sure how you can say that Pirates was not offensive, yet still see the point of the Taino council. The council directly criticizes the film for falsely portraying their people as “savage cannibals.” I think that’s plenty reason to consider the movie offensive.

I actually haven’t seen Borat, so I can’t say. Some people have suggested that the movie is a smart satire of anti-Semitism, so if that were the case, I would be okay with it. Otherwise, it’s just another cheap use of racism/ethnocentrism for the sake of “humor.”

I have to disagree with you that Johnny Depp would engage in celebrating White theft in a bigoted sense. He has put his career on the line to criticize America’s bigoted foreign policy so I really doubt that his heart contains White supremacy in it.

Just because a person commits some anti-racist actions doesn’t mean that s/he is completely free of racism. Getting rid of one’s ingrained racism is a long (perhaps lifelong) process. Johnny Depp doesn’t get a free pass for accusations of racism just because he does some (very good) work in a different arena.

AShe was one of the best bits of the movie for me. Along with the obvious characters. I hope she’s a big part of three and that there are more interesting non-scarey, non-white characters

The portrayal of the white men in this movie made me feel so slighted. I speak of course of Jack Sparrow as the rum swilling pirate. He was drunk all the way through the picture and it completely traumatized me. How could they show that onscreen. Not all white people are drunks. White drunks who will betray their brother to get what they want.

Thank goodness Orlando bloom played Will Turner. Actually, I felt that way initially, but then it all turned. Because he went out as us stereotypical males do, and sought out Jack to free the woman he loved from jail. This clearly showed that he thought she could not fend for herself, casting her in a subservient role. Not all of us men are like this. Some of us would prefer an independent woman who can take care of herself and us as well. We call ourselves “Federlines.”